Saturday, September 13, 2008

On R' Soloveitchik's "Confrontation"

I've just noticed this site containing a discussion of Confrontation. (Note: Kol Dodi Dofek is available online, as well as some of his articles on including one article by my favourite author Prof. Marc Shapiro. I am somewhat surprised that no mention was made of the locus classicus for the subject - R' Hai Gaon's query of the local Christian priest cited here along with some other sources - based interestingly enough on R' Dovid Tzvi Hoffmann's Der Shulkahan Arukh. See also this article for a Christian view (note especially the conclusion) from the Boston of 1858.

R' Yaakov Emden's comments in his hagahot to Seder Olam are well known. These comments caused him some difficulties from less enlightened members of the community, as he describes in Part 2 of his Sefer Shimush - and see also his hagahot to Shevet Yehuda on the Christian- Jewish dialogues contained therein - published in Tzefunot by T. Leherer. See also the introduction to Kreisi U' Pleisi for the position of R' Yonosoan Eibschutz.

Sinec we are nearing Rosh HaShana it is worth citing Y. Leibes's article on the strange reference to a Yeshua Sar Hapnim in the Yehi Ratzon preceding the Tekios (removed I think in the Artscroll machzor - must check). I have already posted about strange mentions in some of the kabbalistic tefillos in the past.


Anonymous said...

"JoshL" claims that Prof. Meir Bar Ilan has refuted Liebes' article, and that the latter is oblivious to a previous interpretation of "Yeshua" by R. Chaim Lieberman:

[I know nothing about the commenter or the authors and articles he mentions.]

Professor S. Z. Leiman has a lecture on the Yehi Ratzon, available here:

[The discussion of the Yehi Ratzon begins about minute 32; there are gaps and repetitions, and I have only listened to the first few minutes. I have previously heard it on tape.]

Anonymous said...

I don't about R' Chaim Liebermans article, Meir Bar Ilan's article is here - , but he is talking about Liebes's theory on Matzmiach Keren Yeshua - Note the quote from S. Leiberman.

There is also a book by C. Kraus - Mechalkel Chaim that I haven't yet seen.

I downloaded the lecture but couldn't find the part you refer to. Would you mind writing down the basics of Prof. Leiman's argument.

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